(DCNF)—During an appearance on the “Joe Rogan Experience” podcast released Friday, a former adviser to Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. alleged bureaucrats are trying to sabotage President Donald Trump’s administration.
“He’s [Kennedy] got a 90,000-person agency. He’s surrounded by demons who want him out and want him destroyed,” former Kennedy adviser Calley Means told Joe Rogan. “And Trump’s sitting at 2 million people.”
“So, his staff is all completely compromised?” Rogan asked.
“Yeah, for the most … especially the whole infrastructure,” Means, who resigned from the White House on Oct. 22, claimed.
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“They were sending around a memo — a CIA manual — about how to be a bad bureaucrat and subvert an institution from within,” Means continued. “That’s, like, sent around by all the career officials. They hate President Trump.”
The Central Intelligence Agency’s precursor, the Office of Strategic Services, disseminated the “Simple Sabotage Field Manual” — which instructed managers to discriminate against efficient workers, give undeserved promotions, and needlessly refer tasks to large committees — behind enemy lines during World War II.
“I’m not making excuses for anyone, but it’s, like, kind of crazy, right? Like, what the hell do I do? This is an unruly government and the president has orders of magnitude more than that,” Means said.
Forty-three percent of responsents cited rebuking Trump’s performance as one of the reasons behind their vote in the 2026 midterm elections, the result of which saw Democrats flipping both chambers of Congress, according to an NBC News exit poll. (RELATED: Americans Will Support Socialism If Republicans Fail To Reform The System, Former White House Adviser Warns)
“I do think it’s possible for him to recognize that there’s frustration over the past two years of not aggressively moving on the policies that he ran on that are widely popular, but there’s been a severe consolidation of power using the fact that he’s very busy to slow many policies down,” Means said.
“But yes, he can make a change to his staff,” he continued. “The president knows who the people are that are not going to sell him out to a foreign government. The president knows the people around him that will try to go hard to really drive some compelling change … to have an impact on the country he wants to have.”
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